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Writers' Workshop - mez Workshop Index Page | frAme4: Love in the Digital Revolution | Questions and Answers Log of trAce Weekly Online Meeting,
WebBoard Chat room Session Start: Sun Feb 27 20:50:51 2000 *** Loki93c_, Helen_Whitehead, mez has joined #trace <Loki93c_> good evening Helen <mez> ello all!:) <Loki93c_> good evening All <Helen_Whitehead> Good evening Loki, mez! * mez does a txtdance round the tabelle;) <mez> how u doing helen? loki? *** Sue has joined #trace <Sue> Hi everyone! <mez> loki>>mi aim for this chat is to get ideers and textlinez flying...so go crazee with the action linez if u like:) *** Alan_Sondheim has joined #trace <Loki93c_> hi Sue <Sue> welcome mez - there's quite a crowd waiting to talk with you <Alan_Sondheim> Hi everyone - <mez> heya sue!! <mez> hey alan:) <Loki93c_> alan....:-)) <Sue> hi alan <Alan_Sondheim> Hi - <Alan_Sondheim> Mez, I gotta question - could I ask it early - <mez> sure alan, go 4 it.... <Alan_Sondheim> How do you relate your abbreviated writing / etc/ style to say integer/m9ndfukc and hackers stuff on IRC (warez channels etc.) - *** Reiner_Strasser has joined #trace <mez> het reiner:) <Sue> -alan can she answer that when we have started? <reiner> hellooooo <Alan_Sondheim> Jawohl <Sue> hi reiner <mez> ooh k alan i'll wait till we're all here, then can u ask that qz again [itz a good 1;)] <reiner> :) - hi alan <Alan_Sondheim> Hi Reiner *** Margaret_Penfold has joined #trace <Sue> hi margaret <mez> hey marg:) <Loki93c_> Hi <mez> ;) <Loki93c_> 1 of 8 <Sue> helen once did pictures of all of us as the borg <Helen_Whitehead> yes i must recycle that one.. <Sue> where did those pics go helen? they were hilariuous <mez> sue>>yeah? musta been cool....wood luv 2 c it... <Sue> margaret thats the week i get back - dont forget to tell us <Helen_Whitehead> http://ds.dial.pipex.com/h.whitehead/trace.htm <Sue> helen i know nenagh and rachael are planning to join us <mez> helen>>will we weightte a l'tle yet b4 startin the chat in earn.est? <Helen_Whitehead> let's c Eff any1 ells arrives *** Nenagh__Watson has joined #trace <Sue> oh look at that url! its a hoot! <mez> wow helen gets primary prize 1 for her mezangelled ah-temptz sew far:) <Alan_Sondheim> As the size of participants grows, so do the number of hellos, we could make a formula out of this probably n(n-1) - Alan - that would be reciprocated, times 2 <Sue> helen can i post that url at webboard? its a killer <Alan_Sondheim> 112... <Helen_Whitehead> feel free Sue! <mez> ehehheheheehheh great url....;) *** Rachael__Field has joined #trace <Helen_Whitehead> hi Rachael * mez teztflippes and frizzonflies...makez the weighting thyme go quikah:) <Helen_Whitehead> look{I,eye}ing Fore.ward 2 chat{bell}ting <Loki93c_> lol <mez> ;) <Rachael__Field> :>) <Alan_Sondheim> 180 <reiner> 404 <mez> flip 180 degreez alan?;) <Alan_Sondheim> no, 10*9*2 <reiner> 360 <Helen_Whitehead> OK, shall we start? Would you like to ask yr question again Alan? <mez> reiner phoar oh! fore <Sue> helen can we do a country check? <Alan_Sondheim> Everyone says hello and everyone reciprocates <Loki93c_> E=Mc2 x Hello n{n-1] <Loki93c_> or summthing <Helen_Whitehead> okay, everyone say where they are....(country) <Sue> thank you Helen - UK <reiner> D <Rachael__Field> England <Helen_Whitehead> UK <mez> juzt b4 we start.... <Helen_Whitehead> sorry - mez? *** Miekal_And has joined #trace <mez> i juzt wanna n-courage a phew thingz thru the chat session <mez> the first being the use of action phrazes <mez> hey miekal!! <reiner> europe <mez> i mean if any1 wants to use an action to x-press themselves, type "/me" without the quote symbols *** R_Adams, Karen_Wheatley has joined #trace <Sue> ok mez * Helen_Whitehead nods at mez <Alan_Sondheim> The question is this - Mez, how do you relate your writing style to, say, m9ndfukc (integer), as well as hacking lingo on IRC (warez channels, etc.) - how is your style different? for example. With integer, not only the politics, but the style can be so difficult to read that if I'm skimming I tend to skip over it. - * reiner likes that <mez> x-cellent, i'm sure u'll all geddit as the chat goes on...also, if ppl don't respond 2 yr actionz, keep trying. * Margaret_Penfold jumps <mez> ok, on wiff the chat! <Helen_Whitehead> as Alan said... <reiner> long time before <mez> alan>>i think my styelle relatez to the n-teger type style in it's play on codes n conventions, and a hacka s-sethic, though the primary use of strict rulez is different, and politically not so stratified... <Alan_Sondheim> - I see - there are also less integers/symbols in your style it seems? <Helen_Whitehead> Does it take ppl long{short.wide} to l-earn your st-isle <Alan_Sondheim> Did it develop online? <mez> ooh yeah, another thing, use fruedian typosh thru the chat..if some1 makes a mezstake, tri and develop it in2 a theme, new wurd etc... * Loki93c_ interested <Alan_Sondheim> And for that matter can your style - or any other - be learned by someone else? Would we all want to write in the Joyce of Finnigans Wake? <Helen_Whitehead> there's an intro to how to do this mezangelling at webboard <mez> alan>>i've used moore orw lezz symbolz, though it seems to res.strict my flow if i B.cum 2 deep.endant on them... <Alan_Sondheim> Did you develop this online, after being on line, or were you heading in this direction before? Could you say something about your background? * reiner i have to speak it in my head to understand <Nenagh__Watson> Mez your words are like music <Sue> reiner - since it is your second language it must be even harder <Helen_Whitehead> it {rich}seams to B a lateral thinking type of lingo-language * Loki93c_ just writes whats in his head......lol <mez> helen>>doezzn't take long 2 learn, the style can b bro.ke[e]n down in2 componentz, n alan i don't think i want ppl to m-ulate mi style in and ov itzelf but find their own ee-quivahlent, thru x-perimentation etc * Helen_Whitehead claps * mez thinks loki is very much on the rite plane, trac[t]k, vein... <Loki93c_> good 2 share a genre though <Rachael__Field> `u` <Sue> mez, i just wish we could hear you say it <Karen_Wheatley> :agrees with Sue * reiner thinks loki is a god - with a hammer <Helen_Whitehead> let's get back{ground} to the start[beginning.end] what is your creative background before the Net? <mez> nenagh>>thanx 4 the music comparison, nice aN ape.propriate methinks...alan>> my background?>> <mez> ?] when asked this i always zeem to wonder which bac[k!].ground shood i trot out, which version ov miself i'll end up purr.pet.u.ating thru teXt... <Alan_Sondheim> Mez how did you develop this? And what is your earlier background - yes, writing, etc.? <reiner> reiner knows that mez can draw and paint <mez> anywaze, i have a multithreaded cre[che]ative pazt, 1 replete with strainz ov twinedterror N purse.ceived angst.... <mez> i have alwaze x-pressivelee fed ov my e-mo[ve.mensez]tionz & knowledge basez, and have n-couraged the development of theze thru xperiental choicez; ... * Loki93c_ sits up <mez> i have academically ratified paperz, in Applied Social Science & Creative Arts - theze have been n-teresting, but onlee fuel my creativitee in miniscule...[i think?].... * mez handz loki a funnelle juzt for the hell ov it:) *** ircleuser has joined #trace <Loki93c_> :-)0 <mez> my reel motivation & bacground is absorption of information, both sensualli and concretelee, and play [x-pressive play and x-pe[t]ri[dish]mentation] is crucial as well.... <mez> heya ircuser:) <Alan_Sondheim> say more about petri dish? <mez> a bendin of the s-tablished, the known, 2 create [ore ah-tempt 2 pro.duce] something other is wot i'm all about:) <Sue> when you speak it, do you speak it as written, or do you never speak it>? <mez> sue>>i've neva ahtemptted 2 use mezangelle out loud, mebbe i shood! *** ircleuser is now known as mIEKAL <Sue> if we meet, i insist you do! <Alan_Sondheim> have you tried to give a text to the Mac to read? I did a poetry reading that way once <Sue> well, when we meet - in the summer if not next month <Sue> yes, give it to a text reader <Sue> i suspect it would sound excellent in a text reader <Margaret_Penfold> Is it a game that has taken over your life or do you only use the system online <mez> marg>>i don't view it as ah game strictlee, butt N other waze i do....play is crucial 2 its 4ewelation... <Loki93c_> would be interesting set 2 music/koans???? <mez> loki>>for shore, u wanna try it?[seriouslee] <Loki93c_> yeah/absolutely <Nenagh__Watson> It reminds me of Dada sound poems - these were spoken live - <Margaret_Penfold> Play as in what children do which is important to understanding new concepts * mez thinks she'll bcome schiz-oid if she triez to mezangelle out loud;) * reiner thinks of two speakers <Loki93c_> dub it over modem singing <mez> aan>>yuppe done the reader thang, and the soundz pro.duced are really very weird and boot.ifull @ the same thyme... <Sue> mez, when you come to incubation maybe we could arrange a mez jamming session <mez> sue>>y knott? * mez texttappz reiner on the head wiff a speak.her ore 2;) <Sue> mez, do you handwrite it as well as type it? <mez> sue>>nope, [g]no handwriting ov it as yet[i].... <Helen_Whitehead> you see it as part of a multimedia approach to art though? <mez> helen>>yup, i do c it azz a multimediamatic ape.proach, condensed in2 one medium purr,haps [that of writing, langue]... <Helen_Whitehead> not just playing with words, but more an xperimiental approach to all your art? * Helen_Whitehead thinks typos while trying to mezangelle make nonsense of the whole thing! <Sue> ah, helen, so does mezangelling require good typing skills? * mez agg.reez in itz current 4mulation, but mebbe another style will cum 4m this? <Helen_Whitehead> yes i believe so * Loki93c_ thinks it is already emergent <Sue> say more loki <Loki93c_> people r coming 2gether networld, fusions/inspiration * mez kneelz b4 loki and hands them a textbannah, re.plete with golden wurds of mezangellednezz and new blank wurd spacez.... * Loki93c_ blushes * reiner thinks does mez look like an mez_angEle * Sue loves these people <mIEKAL> MEZ, did you ever read ee cummings when you were young? <mIEKAL> or bill bissett from canada? * mez getzz n m-mage of her.s[h]elf fragmented, nodic in thread based seg.ments, hair N eyes and nose mixed in2 a cybercubist ren.durr.ing... <mez> miekal>>nope, onlee came across eecummings in the text 3 yrs agao...still ahven't read much, but keep gettin told i shood... <mIEKAL> yr relanguaging of language reminds me of a cross of those two. <mez> helen>>funnilee enuff, thizz piece wazn't written x-clusive.lee for frame, but came from the urge 2 n-tee-grate an old[h]er text snippette with flash capabilitiez... * reiner wannanot be clOned even as an angle * Loki93c_ sends in the KloneS <Alan_Sondheim> Mez, also check out Hannah Weiner - Jack Kimball has written on her (she's dead now) - there are other similarities - <mez> m>.sorri haven't heard of bill biss, u got some ewe rr ellez? * reiner KloneS against cloWnEs <Helen_Whitehead> mez, yr peace in frAme was called Angellzz.... cn U tell US about[in] that? <Helen_Whitehead> Angelz had a science angle, as has other of yr owrk: is this n OBsession 4U? <mez> mi the.ma[nic]tic obsess.eye.ON with science az a[h] sphere of info that kneedz 2 b constantlee qz.ioned comez thru in thizz piece, but with a much softah n-flection than i wood normally take... <Rachael__Field> :>) (<: <mez> ...i think the symbolic nature of azz-ociating cheribbes N love symbolicks with-N a completely different conceptual frame[4]wurk made Christy verve 2wards itz n-clusion... *** Elizabeth_James has joined #trace * mez hurdz reiner n loki 2gether, grabs some pinpricked blood from each n cree.atez a reinahlok!![reiner/loki clownklone] <Sue> hi e <Helen_Whitehead> U ewes many technoloGEEs in yr wurk: do u think we haff to Xperiment with technology as well as 4m? <reiner> hi E. *** Beth_Garrison has joined #trace <Sue> helen i like that question <Alan_Sondheim> Hi Beth <Loki93c_> see aboVe.....:-)) <mez> knott ness.E.celery helen, i think if x-perimentation with technotoolz is yr thang, go 4 it, and wood n-courage it, but x-perimentation can take mai 4ms, many differ.inge shapez and contoosians... <Rachael__Field> :>) * mez has a r-l sistah ca[u]lled elixabeth, but she getz called libbie:) <Beth_Garrison> :o) hello all, and now i will 'listen" * reiner --- thinks about whether mez is thinking mezangelled <Helen_Whitehead> Yr Flash is eggs-cellent mez i'm jellus! <Margaret_Penfold> Doo-yoo fee al clow ser 2 uthers wen yoo tongue type? * mez wants beth 2 play azz well as listen, takes her by her textsenze and tickelles her wurdfiltahz... <elizabeth> eye was curled Libby at infant school & re.fused to answer 2 it... <Beth_Garrison> beth laughs, hats off to Mez.. * Loki93c_ recalls loosing shadow at school of black arts.....lol <mez> reiner>>hmmMMMM...dunno how my brain flazhes and poppz, but i think i do the mezangelled mixing in a moment b-tween thought N feeling, not all.2gether con.c-ous.lee * elizabeth wonders what tongue typing is! <mIEKAL> I missed something about "actions" when I first came in. <Alan_Sondheim> in a very weird way it reminds me of speed thinking, amphetmines, like Ted Berrigan's The Sonnets <mez> meikal....to do actions, type "/me" followed bi the action [wiffout the quote markz]:) <reiner> feeling mezangelled - confuses me i think * mIEKAL catapults linguistic caterwaul * Alan_Sondheim is followed by the action and can't get rid of it... *sob* <mez> marg>>anne.swering yr qz about whether mezangelling makes me pheel closer to otherz? mebbe if they get wot i'm say.inge, yesh.... <Margaret_Penfold> tiping the wae 1s tongue goes not by spelling * Rachael__Field smiles <Helen_Whitehead> it's not just phone{TV}etick tho' * mez doezzn't blast away with chemicals but n-joyz the add.drena.line rushez of wurdstuntz.... <Helen_Whitehead> Do you do much collaboration mez? <Beth_Garrison> mez, have u done any collabs sinz the 1 with talan? <elizabeth> Thx Marg(erine)et. <Margaret_Penfold> so it fulfils the function of a closed group language <mez> helen>>i think co.llab[ore.[r]atory]ing izz the artistic mode ov the future...a wonderfull way 2 wurk... <Loki93c_> like komix, u do the art, i do the inks <mez> beth>>have a phew in the works with jim andrews and dan weber...shood be great... <Rachael__Field> mez who do you collaborate with? <Beth_Garrison> wahOO! cant wait! <Helen_Whitehead> ...or letts ju{dge}st see wot gells -- thatz collaboration! <elizabeth> There's collaboration by dividing function and collaboration bysharing all functions... <Loki93c_> lol <Beth_Garrison> seems that every collab differs.. <mez> racheal>> i collaborate with al n sun.dree, thizz is a collab in a senze, mani great ideers flowin round here.... <Sue> mez, here's a standard interview question - what kind of creative stuff did you do as a child? <mez> sue>>creatiff stuph azz a child/ i moztlee read, played with my petz, was veri quite as a child..ab.sorbed and thort [ mebbe 2 much]..then b-came a blabbermouth...my dad peformz a type of mezangelling, makez up funny wurdz and rimez, mebbe i'm n-flooened bi that 2... <mez> oopz n-flooenced i mean... <Sue> mez, thats interesting - was it the kind of 'nonsense' rhyme stuff? <mIEKAL> did you learn to read by phonics? <Rachael__Field> cat in the hat <Beth_Garrison> but Mez' language is very formal.. <Nenagh__Watson> green eggs and ham!!! <Loki93c_> run <Beth_Garrison> do, run <Beth_Garrison> thats run dog run.. <Loki93c_> & run faster son!!!!!!!!! <mez> sue>>no, more x-tnedin wurds and wurd ppuns...my grandfather did it 2, subbing "sticklip" for "lipstick" etc... <Helen_Whitehead> mez, you m-N-shunned{abandoned} there are ROOLs for mezangelling. Could you let us N on them? <Sue> mez, that is almost a kind of dyslexia <Sue> turning things around, reversals etc <elizabeth> 'malapropism'? <mez> miekal>>nope, read normally, but used mi m-maginative po[m].tential more than mozt pozz[um]iblee? <Margaret_Penfold> No one learnt by that phonic symbol scheme? can't remember the name .Wasn't a success any way * reiner - mezangles have double/triple meaning <mez> my rulez for mezangelling>>....seriouslee, my mezangelle practice means to take the written wurd/wurdstringz/sentencez/ and alter it/them in such a way as to x-tend and n-hance meaning B-yond the predicted, the x-pected * mez hugs reiner and produces stringz of silver polysemics, running them thru her wordfingers and passing them to reiner... <Loki93c_> i'm all 4 that *** Miekal_And has quit IRC (Connection Closed) <Nenagh__Watson> I waz thinkin about dyslexia - it should be viewed as liberation - but people get so inflexable and 'straight' about language - what ever happened to punk! <mez> nenagh>>4 sure!! punk it up bebbe!;) <mIEKAL> oops * Loki93c thinks cyberverse needs a few punks in it 4 local colour <Nenagh__Watson> I get so depressed for my students - seeing um go through the system!!! <mez> Itz like makin plain text hypertextual by the arrangement N die-sectin of wurds. 4 x-ample, this very sentence - mi juggling of the use of a noo-merical symbol "4" as the wurd "for" may lead a reader/viewer to have to jump between the usual N the unusual... <Alan_Sondheim> Mez, but isn't there also a different level of expectation you create - for example "purr" in place of "per" - so that the style becomes heavily depending on puns and associations inherent in the original words? <mez> alan...de[a]finatelee.... <mez> or purr.hapz mi mixing and slicing of the termz "purr" for the beginning of the word "perhapz" [purr linkz 2 a state of animal contentment, pleasure, and a more acoustic lilt, giving flavour to N otherwise non-performative wurd]. I sup[per]poze its my a-tempt at offering an x-panded de[a]finition of meaningz, of n-couraging otherz 2 make the very unitz of textual communication dance & flip within their traditional funckt.ional para[mount]meterz... <Alan_Sondheim> But how do you expand beyond those assonances / consonances / puns entirely? <mez> mezangelleing izz ... itz also political in some senzez, as i can splice mi own opinionated views in2 theze altered texttractz via the layering [e.g.g addin a gender equal message with my additions of [wo] to [wo]man.ifest <Helen_Whitehead> plenty of cyberpunks already <Loki93c_> true, but few exist in all 3 worlds <Loki93c_> neuroVerse, cyberVerse, here & hard <mez> alan>> its a fluid pro.cess, i link and jump azz i c fitt i zoopose, runn wurdz round n bac and thru again... <Alan_Sondheim> I see - and what is neuroVerse Loki? <Loki93c_> the wetware in my head thatfires my inner universe * mez handz loki a nuromancer gunn and shotz them full of gibsonite bitz;) <Rachael__Field> mez it is like you are mixing like a dj <elizabeth> Maches me feel very slow... <Alan_Sondheim> One thing I noticed - Mez is an incredibly fast typist! <mez> racheal>>u got it, sampelling and re:mixing as i go... <elizabeth> Mez you must also be an incredibly fast thinker <Nenagh__Watson> neuroVerse goes straight into the blood stream - <mIEKAL> it was great fun collaborating on speed factory with you...except for the time differences. <mez> mIEKAL>>shore was, luvved that speedfack.tori deal, we shood do it again soma thyme juzt 4 fun... <Rachael__Field> a fast word mixer * reiner mes is not simpalling <Helen_Whitehead> We're vairy keen on journals[diaries.process] at trAce; Eye wunder do U keep a Journal/record of wurk[flow] mez N eff sew - is it N mezangelle {non}language? <Loki93c_> & in2 fingers tips then 2 pc 2 www to ur brain/bloodstream <Loki93c_> so my atoms r linked 2 urs * mez givez loki a vezzel, firez it up within her multiVerse then whistlezz 2 it to go 2 loki's packettepatch... <mez> . i tri to keep a journal, but find it difficult; i now use my outbox as a diary and great resource, it dubblez as ah journal of sortz. i do, howeva, tri to write constantlee; .... * mIEKAL waits patiently for software to disapper. <mez> whether it be sitting on a bus [N later in the librari] scrawlinge out the B-ginnings of Sky Scratches [my collaborative piece with Talan Memmott], 2 form.ewe.latin new wurdz and scribbling them in2 random textfilez D-signed 4 this veri purr.pos[s]e.... * reiner drinks a bit of read vine <Helen_Whitehead> Can U giff us the U our {H}ell for Sky scratches? * mIEKAL reads a bit of red wine <mez> beth>>dunno if eye'm a quik thinker, mebbe i d-[N-]veloped it bi use of chat channellez where u havta type quik or u looze the thread?? * Alan_Sondheim whines <Nenagh__Watson> Mez do u reuse words - boot.iful is great - <mez> nenagh>>yuppe i re;ooze wurdz all the time.. <Sue> mez have you done much MOOing? your text could be made real in a MOO * Margaret_Penfold wines a bit of read <Rachael__Field> is it important for ppl to have their hands on a keyboard to feel connected <mez> sky scratches url:http://www.temporalimage.com/beehive/content_apps25/skyscratchez.html * Sue rines a bit of weed * Karen weds a red bit <Helen_Whitehead> or th'r feet.... * elizabeth kneads a bit of redefine * mez runez a bit of rhetoric[k];) * reiner s glass is empty - now <mez> sue>> N regardz to mooing, i used to purrform wot i take now as MOOIng on normal irc channellez, so i guezz i have done MOOIng juzt knott in the x-pected sense[ologee].... <elizabeth> run reiner run <elizabeth> sorry! <Margaret_Penfold> An interesting evening and thank you Mez. I am sorry I have to go now <mIEKAL> my irc client is asking for $20 every 30 secs... <mez> mIEKAL>>>WOT???? that's ridiculous!! <elizabeth> don't give 'em a penny miekal! <mez> bye marg, thanx;) <Sue> mez, i would love to see what you could build in a MOO <Sue> bye margaret <Helen_Whitehead> wood U N-courage writers moving{xperimenting} in thiss new medium to learn by trial'N'error or get train{learn}ing or use specifiCK program{me}es? <Alan_Sondheim> bye... <Helen_Whitehead> bye marg c u soon <Alan_Sondheim> Helen, the UN definitely courages writers... <Loki93c_> bye Margaret <mez> sue>>me 2, when i have the thyme i'll givit a go[ah!]:) * reiner says good bye *** Margaret_Penfold has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) <Helen_Whitehead> bye reiner thanx 4 cumin! <Alan_Sondheim> There may be riots here, gotta go for a bit - Alan <mez> hmm....itz strange, coz i'm largelee self taught in this field, i suppose i'd n-courage new writers 2 be lezz concerned with the capturing the format of their creative vision as ah rigid goal, rather to go with the [w]ebb n flow of wot they find in their ownne net.wurk x-perience and facktor that inn... *** Alan_Sondheim has quit IRC (QUIT: ) * Loki93c_ agrees * mez tanx reiner and goodbizz him <Helen_Whitehead> Shall we mesh N gel loosely now? <mez> i'd n-courage ppl 2 juzt play for a bit, whether it B via email, or photoshop, or dreamweaver, or icq, or none of these, whether itz in yr own grey matta, don't b too d[r]efined earli on..... *** reiner has left #trace <mez> helen>>mebbe let ppl action each other, if they'd like.... * Helen_Whitehead claps mez * elizabeth hear hears * Karen applauds * mez grabs helen's klappz and holds em tight, treasurin... <Nenagh__Watson> mez ave u any published stuff eye could read??? <Sue> thanks mez - fascinating! * mez brethez in karen's klappz 2, melding and shaping and moldin... * Helen_Whitehead grins, ear 2 {h}ear <mez> sue>>wanna play 4 a bit? jump in2 the ack.shion narrative... <Sue> mez, i am braindead tonight :( <Helen_Whitehead> ack-shuns spik Louder thN wurds... <Sue> a voyeur only this evening <mez> nenagh>>yuppe look at my online resume, lotza linkz from there: http://wollongong.starway.net.au/~mezandwalt/resume2.htm <Beth_Garrison> the action narrative...yeah! <Helen_Whitehead> Y braindead Soo? * mIEKAL disembowels me computer <Nenagh__Watson> Sue worx 2 ard <mez> sue>>k, sure:) <Sue> miekal what are you doing to your machine? * Helen_Whitehead has several mez-recommended sites to add 2 the Log when it goes on the webpage <Beth_Garrison> gutting it...? * mIEKAL narrates a universe without software dysfunction * elizabeth wishes for miekal a lovely sensation of fresh air through the computer's middle * mez pics and pokes at the putergutz, lookin for a cybersoul...arggh....onlee metal bytez and bites [ouch!!]:) * mIEKAL a simpler kinder provocation <Helen_Whitehead> at least Miekalz still{but not quiet} hear <Karen> I'd better go I'm afraid - get on with some work. Thanks Mez. <Helen_Whitehead> bye karen c u again * mez watchez beth's wish turn 2 a list turn 2 a link.... * Karen waves * Loki93c_ still enjoying playing on the net, childlike wonder of it all <Sue> bye karen' <mez> cya karen, thanx:) *** Karen has left #trace <Sue> loki - yes i love the childlike wonder of it <Helen_Whitehead> Better announz next wk... <Helen_Whitehead> Alan Sondheim by bye party! <Beth_Garrison> mez is reading my mind..bless u. <Loki93c_> its vast, i love the possibities on offer <Helen_Whitehead> If he survives the riots..... we can come and say nice things to hi about his six months * mez starts wrapping it up, grabbin the wirds, the snippettes azz they tri 2 esc-ape into the tracetextualnezz.... <mez> beth>>:) <Sue> in a sense mez'a languagae can maybe only be understood by the wired <Beth_Garrison> :o)<my clown face, Mez <Sue> do you think thats true? * elizabeth holds her finger on the bow for mez <mez> hey, juzt wanna thanx u all sew much for participatin...was great fun. if any1 wants to collab, write me[z]! <Sue> do you think thats true? <Helen_Whitehead> mmmm intrESSting ideya <Sue> oops *** PbN has joined #trace <Sue> thanks for coming mez - and i hope to see you soon! <Beth_Garrison> oh, sue i have to diagree, have you read bill bissett? <Sue> beth,no i hadnt heard of him until tonight <mez> ooh hey PbH! we where juzt about to call it a wrappe! <mIEKAL> beth, I mentioned bill bissett a half hour ago. <Sue> but i am thinking of the flavour of her references <Beth_Garrison> oh, Mez, thank you so much for doing this ! <Rachael__Field> :>) :>) :>) thangst mez <PbN> Hi Mez... all... <Nenagh__Watson> Mez thanxxxxxxx a lot - look forward 2 flesh up @ inq -bation - byhi all - must exit <mIEKAL> ted yr here just in time to mop up <mez> sue>mebbe yeah, B-inge wired allowz 4 the conventionz of mezangelled-nezz 2 b easier uberstood i guezz? * Loki93c_ has found it v.interesting <Helen_Whitehead> mez I MUSST collaborate sometime - all thiss is wyrd 4 a born{strict} editor! <Beth_Garrison> bill has created his own universe with his language..also has <Sue> bye nenagh and rachael <Beth_Garrison> a site on the web, hes not wired tho. <Sue> see you sson <Helen_Whitehead> do you have a URL beth? <Sue> ok beth i will look him up, thanx <PbN> yeb, sorry... real life... <mIEKAL> bissett also ran a press call blewointment press which published a lot of canadian experimental work <Sue> pbn real life? what kind of excuse is that? * mez remindz loki of there wurdsmithian n-tention and blows kiltakizzes;) <Sue> i have to go too - sleep!! - but thanks a lot mez <R_Adams> thanks mez (following this chat and browsing your various pages at the same time) what fun!!!
<Helen_Whitehead> Any last questions? <mez> heya jim[bo!] <Jim_Andrews> yo <Jim_Andrews> How did it go? <Beth_Garrison> its a bo and a yo... <Helen_Whitehead> the log may be difficult to read! <Jim_Andrews> It always is! <mez> ehehe yup shore will hell-N:) <mez> jim>.went well!! <Helen_Whitehead> not mex but the rest of us attempting to go wit't'flow <Beth_Garrison> yes, it will be, ask jim about that.. <Jim_Andrews> What were the highlights for you, Mez? <mez> sorry u mi[e]zzed it jim, but the log will b n-turr-taining;) <Jim_Andrews> Cool. <mez> jim>>the play...we did some action narratiff play, ooh i luv that... <Beth_Garrison> but there is a certain freedom and flash association to it.. <Jim_Andrews> Action narrative play? <Beth_Garrison> yes..it rocks..! <Beth_Garrison> but you have to know the function(i dont) <Jim_Andrews> So everyone participates in writing a narrative during the chat? * Helen_Whitehead thinks we should try it again without any interview <Jim_Andrews> There were these seven people in a little boat adrift in the ocean and sometimes a big wave would come along and someone would fall out. <Beth_Garrison> c u . Mez. and thanks. <mez> http://wollongong.starway.net.au/~mezandwalt <Helen_Whitehead> thanx * mez floats in2 a smooth shine ball of wurdz, spinning slowlee then frant.tick-tocklee, then bam! gone;) <Beth_Garrison> :o) *** mez has left #trace Session Close: Sun
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this conversation and would like to join in. Q. Are there any websites you particularly recommend for artistic merit/interest? A. oh yeah, heaps, but here's a condensed lizt: 1._o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o.org: amazing tapestried colour fieldz done with text/lettahz at itz base, juzt stunning... 2._http://sysx.org/gashgirl/ 1 ov the meme.burr[!]s of VNS Matrix as solo gashgirl, some great femmeish-angst-hypertextz here. 3._trAce_ have 2 n-clude it, purely becoz it pervades all thoze netwurked l-ements i think an online community shood have, with some amazing collaborative f-fortz etc etc [i'll shuddup now;)] 4._re-lab.net_ some luverly sound stuff happening here, with a great ahcoustic mailing list [xchange] coming from this..... Q. What advice would you give to a writer just starting to explore and experiment with the Web as tool and medium? A. hmm....itz strange, coz i'm largelee self taught in this field, i suppose i'd n-courage new writers 2 be lezz concerned with the capturing the format of their creative vision as ah rigid goal, rather to go with the [w]ebb n flow of wot they find in their ownne net.wurk x-perience and facktor that in, juzt play for a bit, whether it B via email, or photoshop, or dreamweaver, or icq, or none of these, whether itz in yr own grey matta, don't b too d[r]efined earli on..... Q. Do you think there is a living, or any money at all, to be made for creative writers on the Web? Do you have any recommendations for anyone trying to work in this field? A. i haven't done 2 badlee outta my netwurked art so far, but bi no means can survive in an every-living-cost senze fromme it; it izz ah genre that is 'hot' @ the moment, n as the net becomez more an ackcepted medium & cultural node it will hopefulli all.ow[!] for this e-ventualli. i think it still is x-ceedingly difficult to get financial rewards x-clusively for art projects that aren't funding according to the hierarchical arts network, however. depending on yr n-tegritty outlook, itz possible to use yr multimediatic talents to create corporate products with a more mainstream focus [ such as advertsising etc]...i don't do this, and hopefullli won't [yeah i know i'm purrpetuating the starving artist stereotype but sorry, that'z how it is;)], but mani cood juzt to be able to pay the rent, the lectricity bill, etc etc...my add.vice would B 2 trawl and netwurk & search N make yr own connections, x-periencez, opp.ore.tunities.... |
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